Before we continue with what you have let yourself in for , first make sure that you are happy with the definitions of each engagement. 1. LSR(J) A LONG SERVICE engagement with the Royal Navy and LIABLE to FURTHER SHORTER SERVICE with the Royal Fleet Reserve for all young men joining the Operations Branch under the age of 17½. As you will see, when you reach the age of 18 you get a choice to alter your engagement. 2. LSR(N) A LONG SERVICE engagement with the Royal Navy for 9 YEARS from the age of 18 (or later if you joined the Navy after you were 18) with the LEGAL RIGHT to give 18 months NOTICE to leave the Navy. This NOTICE can only be given AFTER you have completed 18 months service from the age of 18 (or, if you joined after 18 years of age, 18 months from the date you joined PLUS 8 months). You earn less pay on this engagement than you would were you serving on an LSR engagement because you have not fully committed yourself to the Navy. | |
Many more examples could be given to meet YOUR OWN particulars, but it can easily be seen that you must come under example one or two and therefore you can do your own simple sums. | |
3. LSR A LONG SERVICE engagement with the Royal Navy for 9 YEARS from the age of 18 (or later if you joined the Navy after you were 18) and LIABLE to a further 3 years service with the Royal Fleet Reserve. You have NO legal right to give notice. Serving on an LSR engagement earns you more pay than on an LSR(N) engagement simply because you have committed yourself more to the Navy. | |
Now, back to our recruit. You recall that if a man joins between the ages of 16 and 17½ he joins as a junior, and if between 17½ and 33 (yes, 33) as an adult. Further, we said that junior's join on LSR(J) engagements and that adult's have the choice of LSR or LSR(N). Let us consider the junior entrant and see how he commits himself to the Navy. From the day he joins up to attaining the age of 18 he stays on the LSR(J) engagement, even though at 17½ years of age he becomes an RO2 and therefore an adult in rate. Approximately one month BEFORE his 18th birthday, the ship's office will send for him to sign a form. This form is VERY IMPORTANT because by completing it he makes a decision which affects his pay and the number of years he has to stay in the Navy. Simply, he has a choice of changing from LSR(J) to LSR(N) or to LSR. When he has made his choice at the age of 18, the form is kept in the Captain's Office for one month AFTER his 18th birthday in case he wants to change his mind - he therefore has a good two months to think about this important decision and to seek advice. IF HE FORGETS THE FORM, IT IS AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMED THAT HE IS OPTING FOR AN LSR ENGAGEMENT. The adult case is EXACTLY the same for those adults joining over the age of 17½ but under the age of 18. For those adults joining over the age of 18 years, they remain on the engagement for which they originally opted for, and no paper-work is required. So far so good. Now we have ALL Operations Branch personnel at the age of 18 and over serving either on LSR or LSR(N) engagements until they reach the age of 27 years or over, when they have yet another option open to them - more about that in a minute. | |
CHANGES OF ENGAGEMENT | |
This can be done at any time. You LOSE your legal right to give 18 months notice BUT you do get FULL COMMITTAL PAY from the day the Commanding Officer approves your request to change engagements. As a carrot, if you transfer between 18 months and 4½ years from the age of 18 or date you became a trained man if joining after the age of 18 (namely between 20½ and 23½ in example one above, and between 19½ and 22½ in example two above) you will receive a lump sum in your hand of approximately £130-00 (September 1976 figure) which is the equivalent to 9 months back full committal pay. You will also receive committal pay if you complete 7½ years on an LSR(N) engagement - 25½ years for a man joining before aged 18. | |
This can only be done AFTER completing 3 years service from the age of 18 or from the age of becoming a trained man if joining after 18 (date joined plus 8 months). The rules are simple for RO1's and RO2's but become complex if you want the professional courses which help you to become a Leading Radio Operator or a Radio Supervisor. When you reach this stage in your career - promotion that is - seek further advice. The Navy guarantees your right of change but may delay it by up to 6 months if it is in the Navy's interest. | |
Changing from LSR to LSR(N) then BACK to LSR | Can be done at any time but you DO NOT get a COMMITTAL BONUS - of course! |
Changing from LSR(N) to LSR the BACK to LSR(N) | You can do this AFTER you have served 9 months of your LSR engagement |
Premature Voluntary Release (PVR) finishes on the 1st October 1976. How does this affect me as a New Entry? It doesn't. PVR has finished in the Fleet, but PVR for new recruits still holds good under the old existing rules, and is now known as PVR(R) - Premature Voluntary Release (Recruits). To refresh your memory the following rules apply. If you joined before you were 17½. You can leave the Navy ANYTIME during your first 6 months and it is FREE. After 14 days from seeing K1, you can leave. If you joined over 17½ but under 17¾. You can leave the Navy ANYTIME during your first 6 months, but it will cost you £20.00. After 14 days from seeing K1 you can leave. If you joined over 17¾ but under 18. You can leave the Navy ANYTIME BEFORE you reach the age of 18¼. It will cost you £20.00 and you leave the Navy 14 days after having seen K1. If you joined over the age of 18. You can leave the Navy ANYTIME during your first 3 months and it will cost you £20.00. You will leave the Navy 14 days after having seen K1. WHEN THESE TIMES HAVE EXPIRED, YOU STAY IN THE NAVY UNTIL YOU ARE AT LEAST 21 YEARS OF AGE. |